From the Korean blog The Marmot's Hole:
David Watemeyer writes, “I live in Korea and have made the place my home _ yet I definitely find that Taiwan has the advantage in the consideration, friendliness and help it offers foreigners. The question I ask myself is why, given that the two countries have such similar backgrounds. Do the Taiwanese have a more secure sense of identity than the Koreans? Could it have something to do with Taiwan’s longer period of modern development?”What follows is an interesting discussion in the comments section about the differences between Taiwan and Korea, mostly supporting the idea that Taiwanese people, to generalize 23 million people, are more friendly than Koreans, to generalize another.
I've been interested in this concept, seeing as all of my studies of Korea, both in person and anecdotally, have led me the closest I've ever been to what I would call a general disdain for an entire people. I don't hate Koreans. Some of my best friends are Korean, but I don't particularly like a lot of what I read and hear about Koreans.
I wrote about it here a while back, just as one example:
What I came to see during [our Korean friend] Luna's time here, though, was that in Korea, these sort of feelings may be more rooted in tradition and, to some extent, xenophobia than in practical worries. Before Luna and [her French boyfriend] Julien came, I new quite well that Luna's family [was completely against their relationship], and I knew that part of it was due to a belief that she should find a Korean man. Yet, I didn't expect to hear her praising the Taiwanese the way she did. She was almost awestruck by the way foreigners weren't stared down here, the way it didn't seem to be a big deal to pass a Westerner on the street.I have since been to Korea, and while I wasn't accosted on the street by anyone, I rarely felt very welcome. In fact, the night we arrived, after having planned for months to stay with Luna's family, Luna broke into tears, telling us her family just couldn't accept the idea of me, the American, staying in their house. I don't know if it was because I was American, or just that they would have felt awkward with a non-Asian foreigner in their house.
Sure, I've heard instances of people being yelled at by old Taiwanese men about the fact that there's too many foreingers here or something, but not only do I believe that those instances are few and far between, I've never experienced anything close to that myself. Of course, people look at me. I'm tall. I have red hair and, depending on how long it's been since I groomed myself, a full, even redder beard. These looks, though, are never glares. I don't get stared down by people. Little kids, often, are first shocked to see me then almost giddy with interest in me.
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When I mentioned [stories of my interaction with Taiwanese people] to Luna, she said she couldn't have imagined these sort of things happening to people living in Seoul. The idea of Fanfan's family being not only accepting but supportive of her relationship with me was astounding to her. Fanfan said that when she told her parent's that I was coming to Taiwan and they offered to let me live with them, she asked, "Won't the neighbors start to talk?" Her mom laughed and said, "Fanfan, don't you know? This is the 21st century!"
We got a room at a hostel, and we never met anyone in her family. It was the first time, after staying with friends in Sweden, Italy, Ireland, Poland, Taiwan, and France that I haven't been invited (forced even) to come over and meet the folks.









I think what you say about Taiwan's path to modernization is pretty accurate.
ReplyDeleteIt has been a country that has needed friends for a long time, whether it comes to business or politics, so they're more accustomed to opening their doors.
That's too bad that they left you out in the cold in Korea, so to speak. I've had several friends, like yourself, who made the move from Korea to Taiwan.
They all say it's better in Taiwan.
I know it's dangerous to make generalizations but I think Koreans are loyal and prefer to stick to their own. Maybe that's why they aren't so open to outsiders?
Spencer,
ReplyDeleteTo be clear, I never did live in Korea. I've been there before to visit a friend, but that was for only a week.
Hey, just want to add that my wife's (taiwanese) family were almost violently opposed to she and I getting wed. But their attitudes did change once I put out the line to meet with her family and all of her uncles, and do a lot of explaining.. (very scary time anyway ^_^!!!!)
ReplyDeleteIt was clear that they were more worried about the type of person I was than where I came from.
I'd also like to add that I have met some westerners that give me, and I am sure many others, a bad name.
I'm sure I've been unlucky enough to meet a small minority. But it did make my task of proving my worth a lot harder, since my family in law had met them before me.
In general though I find being "foreign" in Taiwan earns me no extra attention, and thats the way I like it.
Yeah, Asi, I know using love and relationships as an example probably isn't the best idea, seeing as there's is a big difference between helping a foreigner on the street and letting him date/marry your daughter. Both Fanfan's family and my family had their reservations about us being together at first.
ReplyDeleteYet, I know numerous Western/Taiwanese couples in Taiwan in which the parents are delighted to welcome the new addition.
Aside from couples, though, the real point of the post is to discuss the general disposition of Koreans and Taiwanese people vis-a-vis foreigners.
http://www.southasianpost.com/portal2/402881910674ebab010674f52e0a18e1.do.html
ReplyDeleteWell, Mark, that certainly doesn't make the picture any better. Thanks for the article, and remind me never to write anything in a Korean expat forum....
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